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03:14 PM EDT on Tuesday, April 12, 2005
Frank the Moderator: The Sox-Yankees rivalry makes for great
baseball. But at what price? The Boston and New York organizations have
more than $300 million in baseball talent on the field and in the
dugouts.
APanciera: Dave, we here at projo.com added an online survey to
go with your story that let readers vote on whether they thought
players' salaries were too high. Is it a surprise to you that 82 percent
said yes? (And if any of you would like to vote/add your comments, go
here:
http://projo.com/baseballpaysurvey)
Frank the Moderator: Lots of people seem to believe that ticket
prices are directly related to the teams' payroll, but aren't ticket
prices are just a small part of the equation? In general terms what is
the relation between Fenway ticket prices and Red Sox player salaries.
Frank the Moderator: Dave -- were you able to talk to anyone in
the Red Sox organization about the salaries?
Frank the Moderator: What were the economists like. Are they
sports fans that are also economists? Does MLB use them?
FatJack: Dave, Do you see any ceiling for these salaries, or are
they likely to continue increasing to the point where bench warmers are
earning $10 million per year and fans are paying $200 for a seat in the
bleachers, $20 for a beer?
Frank the Moderator: Personally, do you think professional
players are worth their salaries?
FatJack: What role do you think the big salaries play in the
steroid scandal?
Frank the Moderator: Do professional player care that their
salaries are all over the news?
Frank the Moderator: Any thoughts of trying out for the PawSox
next season. How much do competitive runners make a year?
nofan: So, if the players are making this much money, how much
must the owners be raking in? Is there a way to calculate their profits?
Frank the Moderator: Thanks Dave for sitting down for an hour
with us. Look forward to your next sports-business story.
Journal Deputy Business Editor David McPherson wrote
about baseball salaries on Sunday and today will field your quetsions
and comments about baseball salaries.
Swing away and post your
questions now. McPherson will log in at 2 p.m. to share some thoughts.
David McPherson: Given that
most people make far less money than baseball players, that is not
surprising. But many of those who say baseball salaries are too high
also love the game and contribute to the high salaries by watching the
games on TV, buying tickets, listening to the radio or buying a T-shirt
with a Red Sox logo. All of that contributes to team revenue, which is
then used to pay players. It's our dollars that help pay the high
salaries.
David McPherson: Ticket prices are part of the equation, but they
represent only one slice of the team's revenue. More important than
ticket revenue is the money baseball teams receive from television
rights. According to a pair of sports economists I spoke with, a major
reason for the high salaries is TV money. Without it, players would be
paid less. That's why teams with bigger TV deals - like the Yankees and
Red Sox - can pay more than a team from a small media market like
Milwaukee.
David McPherson:
I'm sure I could have, but did not attempt to do so. I was more
interested in speaking with baseball outsiders who could talk about the
fundamental reasons why baseball players and other professional athletes
make so much money. There's a small group of economists around the
country who specialize in sports. They're an interesting group to talk
with.
David
McPherson: They definitely struck me as sports fans. As economists,
I think they find sports to be a way to make economics fun and
accessible to the average person. I'm not sure if MLB uses them, but
some of the economists who work in the area have been retained as
consultants by various prof teams. Through my conversations with them, I
came to realize the fundamental economic forces at work in baseball are
just like those in any other business.
David McPherson: It's up to the
fans. If they ever revolt, then a limit may be reached. But as long as
Fenway Park keeps selling out, the ticket prices will keep going up.
Collectively, the fans will decide how much is too much to pay. I never
thought I would see bleacher seats going for $20 or more, but they do.
And they're always full, except maybe on a rainy day.
David McPherson: I think
professional athletes deserve to be paid well for their talents, but the
salaries at the high end, of course, seem excessive to me. What I find
interesting is the way teams with less money to pay look for bargain
talent, the players who are better than their salaries indicate. The New
England Patriots, for instance, seem to have perfected that process.
They seem to make the most of the money they have to spend under the
NFL's salary cap. One thing to remember about athletes is that they are
paid for performance. If they stop performing well, then eventually
their salaries go down. That's not always the case with corporate CEOs.
David McPherson: The allure of a big paycheck
is one more reason for a ball player to seek a competitive edge through
steroids. I'm not sure that's the sole factor. Some of the top players
now accused of taking steroids would probably still be making a lot of
money without them.
David McPherson: I'm sure on
one level they would prefer not to publicize their pay, but I think
their agents would tell them it works to their advantage by creating a
competitive bidding environment. In a sport so dependent on statistics,
it's easy to argue you should be making more when other less productive
players are better paid. I once read that the NHL was able to keep
hockey salaries down by keeping players in the dark about what other
players paid.
David
McPherson: Not me, I'd be the oldest player still in the minors. But
you will find me in the stands at McCoy enjoying the reasonable prices.
David McPherson: It is extremely difficult to know. Unlike a public
company like GE or Tyco, baseball teams are private businesses that are
not required to disclose their finances to the investing public. A
number of small market teams have claimed to be losing money, but some
outside analysts have questioned these claims. The best estimates on a
team's value and profitability are done annually by Forbes magazine.
They rank the teams in all the major pro sports in terms of value. Not
surprisingly, the Red Sox are ranked second in value to the Yankess in
baseball. In football, Forbes estimates the New England Patriots as one
of the most valuable franchises. I'd love to see the real numbers for
myself, but it's unlikely to happen unless a team goes public.
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